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22. Middle School

Our family was watching French Kiss—typical fare, since my dad loved Meg Ryan and both of my parents liked romantic comedies—and when the scene came on where Meg Ryan's character, Kate, describes the unsatisfactory night she lost her virginity in her boyfriend's basement during Jeopardy, my dad turned to me and said, "If you ever do that, I'll kill you."

Date: Jan. 22nd, 2007 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynittria.livejournal.com
Would it have been OK if it was any show other than Jeopardy? ;)

I actually posted a memory today; in fact, it's a two-fer: Two grade-school memories (http://elynittria.livejournal.com/24003.html#cutid1).

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
I think you know his point was that Your First Time shouldn't be in some loser's basement while the TV's on. *g*

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
Everyone knows anybody with REAL class loses their virginity during Wheel of Fortune.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
GIMME AN O!


lol couldn't help it

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
hahahahahahaha This begs to be [livejournal.com profile] metaquotesed. Can I?

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:06 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Even though you have to buy an "o" on the show? Yeah, sure.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
Quoted! (http://community.livejournal.com/metaquotes/5792205.html) And I used your point about the purchasing of O's in the context link. XD But, I'd like to point out, a lot of people do say "Gimme an O!" on the show. "I'd like to buy a vowel." "Okay." "Gimme an O!" (I really hate Wheel. My parents are addicted. Woe is me.)

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
WHAT?!! HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE WHEEL OF FORTUNE?!! EVERYONE IS SO ENTHUSIASTIC AND WELL-SPOKEN!!11!

*facepalm* Even Jeopardy isn't as enjoyable or challenging as it used to be.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
XDDD Actually, it's a childhood hatred. I didn't like it because it was too easy and all based on luck. It bored me. I wanted to have to know something.

I'm a total game show geek, though. I keep my TV on all the time just for background noise, even when I'm not actually in the room. I'd be embarrassed to admit how many hours a day it's tuned in to the Game Show Network.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Something tells me all it would take would be a polite inquiry into how many hours a day you spend watching GSN. Let's see if that's true.

Wheel of Fortune was easy and luck-based, but (so?) my mom and I used to play at who could guess the puzzle first, sometimes with no letters at all. Made sense, since she was the one who taught me how to play Scrabble. (As in, word games.) Hangman too; that's closer to Wheel of Fortune.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
hahaha Ya got me. I'll admit to any of my geekery if asked. The TV flips to GSN at 9 AM when the paid programming ends and stays there until 6:30 PM. At which point I watch an episode of MASH and then Dr. Phil on the west coast channel. (stfu, some of those people are NUTS and I just can't look away.) And then there's usually an hour of Match Game at 11-midnight that I listen to while I'm roleplaying. So all in all, GSN is usually on for more than ten hours a day. How much of it I'm actually watching depends entirely on the day.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 04:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
*g* I knew it. I didn't know you watched so many game shows. I guess I figured you had fandom-type series on all day.

Iiiiiit's Match Game PM! We went through a Match Game-watching phase when the Game Show Network got added to the basic cable package and they used to show it in marathons. Charles Nelson Reilly = love.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
Admitting to more geekery: sometimes I do have days when I want to spend all day on fandom-type shows. But I don't have the heart to turn off GSN so I mute the TV and pop a DVD in the laptop. XD It's easier than climbing around to get to my DVD player, anyway. (I really ought to take pictures of my room, to show how all the book piles block the path to the TV. I have to balance and lean to get to it.)

Charles and Brett CRACK ME UP. They're out of their freakin' minds.

Date: Jan. 22nd, 2007 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kabal42.livejournal.com
*G* I was going to ask the same as [livejournal.com profile] elynittria!

But instead I'll tell you of the only piece of advice my mum ever gave me about sex. I was going to visit my boyfriend Jakob for a weekend when I was fifteen. (NB to non-Danes - 15 is legal age here!) My mum's hug when I left was a bit different than usual and then she stared at me and said "Be careful!" That was it *G* Thanks goodness for sex education and for me being both able to seek information and to buy condoms without dying ;-)

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:10 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
"Be careful" -- classic! Not very educational, but at least you found out she was fairly liberal about things, right?

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kabal42.livejournal.com
Definitely a classic ;-)
I did find out later and I think that part of that was that she both got used to the thought of her daughter(s) being sexually active and she changed. Her views are over-all more liberal now than they were then.

Date: Jan. 22nd, 2007 04:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com
The only sex ed I ever remember getting from my parents was my mom giving me (you guessed it) a book.

It was called The Stork Didn't Bring You ... and that's about I remember about it. I do recall being singularly uninterested -- maybe it was too early for me.

Heh.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mer-duff.livejournal.com
Heh. I wonder if that was the book my friend IM and I found when we were five. I remember our mothers being a little distressed, so I don't think we were supposed to have read it quite yet.

As far as I can recall, my mother's sole contribution to my sex education was the casual comment, as she was driving me to band practice, that women masturbate too.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Great title. I don't think I knew anything about the stork myth until my parents sat us down for the birds and bees talk with a book (of course :) ) that explained why it wasn't true.

The "sex ed" my mom got from her mother was just horrifying, but our parents did a wonderful job. I think we were very lucky in that sense.

Date: Jan. 22nd, 2007 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purridot.livejournal.com
Watching movies with parents = horror!

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Amen! So uncomfortable to sit through sensual scenes with them around. And half the time when I'd be watching something on my own, one or both of them would walk by the TV just as some sex scene or violence came on and I'd do some combination of cringing, blushing and protesting that everything had been perfectly normal a few minutes earlier. Parents just have the worst timing with that sort of thing.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephantom.livejournal.com
Ahaha, that happens to me all the time!

One day I was watching "Frankenstein" with Kenneth Branagh and then my mom comes in just as this crazy sex scene comes on out of nowhere and she's like "What are you watching?!" And I'm like, jeez, it's literary, ok? It wasn't like this a second ago! lol

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
she's like "What are you watching?!" And I'm like, jeez, it's literary, ok? It wasn't like this a second ago! lol

LOL, scenes from my life.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
I once watched Requiem for a Dream with my father. I was weirded out by the fact that ... we weren't weirded out. O.o

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purridot.livejournal.com
You must have a cool family!

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
Just Daddy. My mother got disgusted with Angels in America because of TEH GHEY and had to leave the room. Woe. :(

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mer-duff.livejournal.com
My father manages to alienate/terrify men that I'm not even dating. I took my friend K to the symphony a few years back, completely forgetting that my father had tickets for that series. Naturally, we ran into him in the lobby before the performance. It was the first time K had met my father and once we took our seats, he turned to me and said very seriously, "Your father has taken my measure and found me wanting." He was so intimidated that he refused to leave his seat during intermission, even though his favourite part of any performance was meeting new people in the lobby (unless of course they happened to be my father). Then last year, I took my friend D to a play my father was stage managing. D ran into my dad during intermission and returned completely cowed. "Your father does not approve of me," he said as we slunk back to our seats. To this day they're both convinced that my father hates them.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Because no man is good enough for his [livejournal.com profile] mer_duff, of course. Did K and D really say those things verbatim? They're very funny.

My dad -- as I imagine many dads do -- tends to assess each male-type person I introduce him to, whether boyfriend or potential boyfriend or purely platonic friend. I'm amused by how his voice deepens when he talks to them, how he makes a big point of shaking their hands and asking about their Life Plans.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mer-duff.livejournal.com
I can't guarantee 100% accuracy on the quotes, but if anything my memory probably isn't doing them justice. They're very funny guys. I owe at least half of the dialogue in "Whining and Dining" to arguments/discussions I've had with K.

Ah, fathers and daughters. K now has a baby girl of his own and I can't wait to hear how he deals with potential suitors.

*wanders in from metaquotes*

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astridsdream.livejournal.com
My dad does that assessing of male friends thing too, but he is so adorably clumsy about it. He asked me one time if my friend Mike was a gamer (knowing how I do love me my gaming). I gave him a funny look, and he clarified with "I mean, is he a good person?" After recovering from the laughing fit of my dad associating "gamer" with "good person", I told him yes on both counts, and no, we won't be dating, um, ever.

Since then, the only male friends I've introduced him to have been established boyfriends. It's easier for him, bless his pointed little head.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
My parents have never said a damn thing to me about sex. At least not directly. Dad's been making crude jokes for as long as I can remember, but that's not really educating me. XD I found out how babies are really made when I was in first grade, through some book that I discovered and read. Whatever it was, it was clearly geared toward kids. I recall it starting out something like, "When a man and woman love each other very much, sometimes they like to show it by being close to each other." And then it went into greater detail, but still not great detail.

My parents' idea of discouraging me from having sex was to disallow my boyfriend(s) and me any alone time. Never underestimate the determination of a teenager, though. When I decided I was ready, dammit, I was ready. The only time my boyfriend Pat and I were allowed to be alone was when we were at church. So. At sixteen I lost my virginity in the basement bathroom of a Catholic church in Philadelphia.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Ah ha, we finally hear the story behind the infamous church deflowering.

Never underestimate the determination of a teenager, though. When I decided I was ready, dammit, I was ready.

And thus the species perpetuates itself. :) If children weren't horny and determined and wily, we'd all die out.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynittria.livejournal.com
I love the irony of the place you chose!

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
XD Well, it wasn't much of a choice! It was the only place we were allowed to be without our parents and neither of us was brave enough to risk trying to do it practically under their noses without getting caught.

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purridot.livejournal.com
When I was living on the West Coast with my fiance (and new kitten), my father flew out for a visit. He had never met my fiance.

He arrived, and the first thing he said when we opened the front door was, "So where's this new kitten?" (My Dad loves all animals.)

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 03:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Ha. Easygoing about the fiancé, then, or just crazy about cats?

Date: Jan. 23rd, 2007 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purridot.livejournal.com
He loves pets!

Also, as a divorce lawyer, he was cynical about True Love. ;-)

Date: Jan. 24th, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturnial.livejournal.com
Here from metaquotes, but I just want to say that I love your layout. Classic, clean, simple - yet interesting, the header is pretty yet not over done or over photoshopped, the colours harmonise nicely without being boring...

I can't stop staring at it. Frankly, I'm a little bit disturbed. It's just a basic layout, right?

*keeps staring*

Date: Jan. 24th, 2007 02:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Oh, thank you! I confess I stared at it a lot too when I made it just a few weeks ago. I love that photo and was looking forward to using it in here. It is indeed a basic S2 layout with a background image and the top margin set to a few hundred pixels so the image shows. I wanted to do the whole thing from scratch, being a web-type person by day, but LJ makes that a lot harder to accomplish than it ought to.

Anyway, thanks again, and feel free to stare at your leisure.

Date: Jan. 27th, 2007 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catilinarian.livejournal.com
But surely, the very experience of losing your virginity in your boyfriend's basement with the telly on is punishment enough? :)

When I was around seven or eight, my mother and I were loading the trunk of the car, and I asked her (I don't remember what put the idea in my head to begin with; I didn't have a crush at the time, so it might have been a magazine) how old I would have to be before she let me start dating. She shrugged and said, "Oh, maybe sixteen?" And I had a strangely specific image of myself at sixteen - blonde, for some reason, with a black velvet dress and a string of pearls, flirting with a man in a suit over a candlelit dinner table. "Sixteen!" I exclaimed. "But I'll be getting married by then!"

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