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Nostalgia, a fic-writing dry spell and a random encounter with a fellow Alexander Siddig fan (jeez, I still want to type "Siddig el Fadil") on someone else's LJ all converged this week and compelled me to read some Deep Space Nine slash for the first time, almost all of it Garak/Bashir. I've read DS9 fic before -- mostly Odo-centric, mostly gen -- and, heck, the first big fanfic I wrote back in the day was for that series -- but I never ventured far into other people's adult-rated stuff. I grew up with those characters (the series launched when I was about 11), and until recently it was too uncomfortable for me to imagine them with genitalia, if you know what I mean. I still can't do it with the characters in the original series or Next Gen, both of which I watched when I was very young, and possibly will never be able to. But the Cardassians have always exuded sexuality with an edge of dominance and violence that I love in villains, and in the last year or two I've become quite the explicit slash fan, so I suppose I've been primed to enjoy good stories with the DS9 characters I like.

I've always said that if I were to slash anyone on that show, it'd probably be Bashir and Garak (close seconds being Dukat/Garak and Dukat/Damar), so it's no surprise that that's where I've jumped in. [livejournal.com profile] babel (*waves*) has a nice collection of G/B fics at her journal as well as a recs page that have gotten me started.

Note to self & anyone interested -- favorite fics so far, and do heed the authors' warnings, as some of these contain disturbing content:
[livejournal.com profile] babel:
- "Incomprehensible": Weyoun watches Damar with a woman and wonders about sexuality. Excellent Weyoun characterization, which I imagine is hard to achieve. Weyoun/Damar undertones.
- "The Traitor": AU fic in which Tain forces Garak to interrogate Bashir.
- "A Perfect Stranger": Three-part (but not lengthy) AU version of "The Wire" in which Bashir and Garak meet for only a moment but sense afterwards that they could have had much more. Mournful. Parts told from the POV of Garak, Bashir and Mila, respectively.

[livejournal.com profile] penknife:
- "Veritas": Garak murdered Bashir. Or did he?
- "When The Lights Go On Again": Post-series, Garak on Cardassia pining for Bashir and failing to find comfort at a brothel.

[livejournal.com profile] thehoyden:
- "Literacy": Bashir reads a novel in the original Kardasi to Garak during his recovery from events in "The Wire," not realizing it's erotica.
- "Letters from the Northern Continent": Sweet post-series fic in which Garak's running the Cardassian government and a more mature Bashir takes a leave of absence to work in a medical facility there. Excellent character voices and an intriguing look into what Bashir didn't see all those years before he became more familiar with Cardassian culture.

"Images in a Broken Mirror" by Kathryn Ramage: Hurt/comfort with two adventures in the mirror universe. Begins with Bashir and Kira over there, Mirror!Garak disposing of the Intendant and assaulting Bashir. Real!Garak's characterization is off, and for long stretches so is Bashir's, but the rest of the story is good enough to compensate for that and a few other weaknesses.

"Condemnation" and sequel/conclusion "Guilt" by Elizabeth Helena: Lengthy story exploring issues of (mis)trust, Garak's shadowed past and Bashir's attraction to it, and an all-too-brief affair. Gets lost in itself sometimes, but very good otherwise. The juxtaposition of the flashbacks and seduction in the first part are particularly well done.


(Please, if anyone has recommendations of specific stories, authors or archives for good DS9 fic, particularly Garak/Bashir, point the way. I've only gone through babel's stuff, her recs page and the Garak/Bashir Fuh-Q Fest over at garakbashir.tripod.com.)

There's a surprising similarity to House/Wilson in a lot of the Garak/Bashir I've read so far. Some of it's the basic fanfiction and slash tropes, of course, but it extends beyond that. There's the young, handsome, intelligent, eager doctor with large brown eyes and a series of unsuccessful relationships with women under his belt. There's the older, jaded man with insurmountable trust issues, walled-off emotions, keen observational skills and an addiction he only managed to overcome with the help of the doctor; a man who's intrigued by puzzles and mysteries and enigmas, who lives to play with truths and lies, who is disliked and/or mistrusted by almost everyone around him. His only friend is the younger doctor, who challenges and entertains him, with whom he engages in shameless flirtations, and whose naiveté he is amused and charmed by and also tries to corrupt. The young man believes in the other's intrinsic goodness despite the other's dissuasions (and simultaneous encouragements). There were some lines in the fics I read today that could have come straight out of a House/Wilson fic: stuff about Garak moving from addiction to the wire to addiction to Bashir, or Bashir lecturing Garak on his inability to open up and trust him. It jars, too, when either calls the other by his first name, just as it usually does when "Greg" or "James" shows up in a H/W story without explanation, though that's a minor point.

It's not that I like G/B for the moments where it reflects H/W, or vice versa; I appreciate them both independently. It's just been interesting to notice what they have in common.

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synn.livejournal.com
ut the Cardassians have always exuded sexuality with an edge of dominance and violence that I love in villains,

Funny, that's just what I always loved about Cardassians. Fancy that.

Alas, I have no recs, but I may check out yours later on *s*

I've been wetting my palatte with CSI and NCIS fic the last couple days...and debating whether I remember the characters well enough to write a good weiss kreuz fic of the type I'm in the mood to read.

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 03:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Yes, how odd. No, wait -- along with Weyoun adoration, that's pretty much how we became friends.

CSI and NCIS? You must really be desperate.

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zulu.livejournal.com
What an interesting reflection between the two pairings! I never would have thought of it, but that's so true. (Makes me want to write some House/Wilson "Our Man Bashir" AU thingy. But...that would be too weird, wouldn't it? Except...oh, hell, here comes the horde of plotbunnies...Cuddy could be Kira/Anastasia, Cameron as Dax/Honey Bare, maybe Foreman as O'Brien/Falco?...Tritter or Vogler as EvilSiskoGoingToDestroyTheWorld...dammit, dammit, dammit. I am not going to do this. Stop encouraging me. I HAVE COMMITMENTS TO THE HW_FEST. DAMMIT.)

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 04:10 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
I know! I wouldn't have thought of it either, unless perhaps someone had said, "House/Wilson and Garak/Bashir: go!" The parallels have been interesting to pick out, and I'm sure there's more to say on the subject. I've only been reading the stuff for two days, after all.

Encouragement? No, no, encouragement would be me saying, Hee, an "Our Man Bashir" with House characters would be great fun, especially if done by you! But that would be mean, since you have commitments and all. (But isn't it fun, in a horrible sort of way, to procrastinate on commitments by chasing completely unrelated plot bunnies?)

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
There's the young, handsome, intelligent doctor with large brown eyes and a series of unsuccessful relationships with women under his belt.

... hahahahahaha. Yeah. I never thought of that. I'm definitely attracted to a certain type of character. Huh.

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 04:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
:) If only RSL were English, right?

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 06:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com
Very interesting.

I never really got into DS:9 (I was a TOS and Next Generation fan all the way) but some of these fics are really good.

I especially liked The Traitor. Heartwrenching.

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 05:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
DS9 had a different feel from the rest of the Star Trek series, in look and plot and mood. I liked its visual and philosophical darkness, but I think that's what turned off a lot of the people who didn't enjoy the show. (Was that the case with you? You don't seem averse to dark storylines and shades-of-gray morality.) It also became my favorite because I followed it from premiere to finale as it aired, which I hadn't been able to do with TOS or TNG -- both of which I still love.

Admirable of you to give some of those stories a try when you weren't much of a fan of the show. Some of them are very good -- I plan to go back and read several of them again once the first flush of infatuation with the pairing has calmed -- and I'm looking forward to seeing what else is out there.


P.S. Would very much like to [finally] give your Better Angel story concrit, but it's going to take a little while because we're undergoing some big changes here at work and my Internet time is limited, as evidenced by the half-hour it has taken to write this comment.

Date: Dec. 7th, 2006 05:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com
I liked its visual and philosophical darkness, but I think that's what turned off a lot of the people who didn't enjoy the show. (Was that the case with you? You don't seem averse to dark storylines and shades-of-gray morality.)

Oh gosh, I really don't remember. I think I watched the first few episodes but it didn't grab me the way TNG had. These stories have aroused my interest again, though.

Would very much like to [finally] give your Better Angel story concrit, but it's going to take a little while ...

*grins* Not a problem; it's not going up for a little while yet. I just want to get a handle on how it reads to other folks because I've read it so often I'm getting to the point where I can't tell, and make the corrections I know it needs. Heh.

Date: Dec. 11th, 2006 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catilinarian.livejournal.com
I'd never thought of those similarities, but that's very, very true. I suppose it's not just Garak and characters like him (Vetinari in the Discworld series, for instance, as well as House) that intrigue me, but that entire dynamic. Healer/soldier? Healer/spy? It's a very engaging and subtle (and strangely, appealingly vulnerable)relationship.

I wonder whether, when House and Wilson first met, Wilson was more gullible and more eager to jump in and try to rescue House, and only hardened after years of exposure to House's games and cynicism and uncomfortable insights, the way Bashir eventually stopped jumping every time Garak baited him.

And thank you so much for posting recs! It's been years since I read any G/B, but I'm so in the mood for it right now. I'm afraid I've forgotten most of my old favourite stories by now (and the ones that I do remember I re-read and cringe; I had a much greater tolerance for fluff as a teenager), but I'll let you know if I come across anything else good.

Date: Dec. 14th, 2006 02:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Heh. Thought you were a scholar/soldier kind of girl.

I like the idea that House has hardened Wilson over time, but I also like the idea that Wilson has always had a sarcastic bastard edge to him and he and House twigged to each other immediately. Haven't been able to choose which one I prefer... but then, why not believe both?

I've been making my way through the extensive, if mostly mediocre, alt.startrek.something-or-other DS9 slash archives and found a couple of G/B stories you might like:

http://www.trekiverse.org/archive/2000/adult/ds9/Flowering - Garak at boarding school under an assumed name preparing for a career in intelligence and getting involved with a deviant older boy.

http://www.trekiverse.org/archive/2000/adult/ds9/ByTheSwordsEdge - Garak is the pirate "Greyridge" and Bashir is a British captain who gets captured/rescued and gradually falls for his nobler-than-expected captor. Really long – I skimmed most of it – but original.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2006 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jdr1184.livejournal.com
I feel like I should have made the connection. G/B was my very first slash pairing. They were always my favorite characters even though they didn't get enough screen time. The whole genetic thing for Bashir put quite a strain on their friendship. I've haven't read any fic in while. Thanks for the recs.

Date: Oct. 11th, 2009 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffeestudies.livejournal.com
Hey there!

I pretty much sucked this post and the comments dry for Garak/Bashir links and I feel it's only fair to give something back. So if you're still interested in recs here (http://delicious.com/coffeestudies/st%3Ads9) are my ds9 links.

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