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[personal profile] bironic
Two people from two different parts of my life enthusiastically recommended this fantasy novel by Patrick Rothfuss, the first in a trilogy called The Kingkiller Chronicle that hasn't yet been completed.

Slow start, but intriguing. Then it turned out the first 50 pages were only there to set up a situation in which the main character, Kvothe, the greatest arcanist alive, is going to tell his life story to a scribe. There followed 600 pages of earning a blackout on the Gary Stu Bingo card. The proper pronunciation of his name! His striking red hair, the changing shades of his green eyes! His Batman-tragic childhood! His incredible precocious talent and brilliance! He is the best at almost everything he tries! Those around him love or hate him and are never indifferent! He is so alone and misunderstood! The woman he falls in love with is the most beautiful and enigmatic in the realm, whom all other men wish they could be with! Drama follows him everywhere he goes! The great misery of the world in the present-day narrative is all his fault! We do not hear any details about other people's lives that don't revolve around him! And it's told in the first person to top it all off.

He says charming things like: "I was brilliant. Not just your run-of-the-mill brillance either. I was extraordinarily brilliant."

My friends' praises convinced me to give the book more patience than I would have otherwise, and despite the above, I'm generally glad I did. The story picked up around 225 pages in when young Kvothe went to university. Whether that's because the pacing improved or because I identified more with an academic success fantasy is hard to tell. It's just that my enjoyment of the competence kink and my desire to find out how Kvothe achieved The Thing he's most famous for were tested by his being so everything. He gets called out sometimes for his arrogance and his Gryffindor tendency to leap before looking, and punished sometimes for breaking rules, but he almost always gets off easy. And while often he is (so) clever and resourceful, he's also unpredictably thick and self-defeating. He's driven to learn all he can about one particular spoilery thing, yet he makes choices that hamper his ability to achieve that goal. Frustrating.

Kvothe's rapidly cycling financial solvency, the way he struggles to stay one step ahead of total destitution and doesn't always manage to do so, was an interesting difference from a lot of other SF/F stories I've read.

Little things bugged me on a prose level. Rothfuss uses too many similes. Kvothe and a faerie friend have an inexplicable tendency to say each other's names in every line when they converse. There were some typos and comma splices, and whoever proofread this book did not understand plural possessives, so it's all "my parent's tent" and "the villager's fear." On the other hand, there was some fun stuff with a country dialect (for example, calling pigs: "Loo, peg! Peg peg peg.") and with making fun of bad poetry.
"What do you know of poetry?" Ambrose said without bothering to turn around.

"I know a limping verse when I hear it," I said. "But this isn't even limping. A limp has rhythm. This is more like someone falling down a set of stairs."
But the main thing was that the beginning of the story set up a mystery -- the reason the scribe is so keen to record Kvothe's life -- that kept me turning the pages... only to discover that it's not going to be explained until a later book. IF YOUR STORY IS ABOUT HOW CHARACTER X DID Y, AND YOUR BOOK IS 662 PAGES LONG, I WANT THE ANSWER BY PAGE 662. Ugh. Tell me a complete story. Or, barring that, at least a complete segment with one significant step of the ultimate goal achieved. Then if I like your story, I will trust you enough to read another complete story in the sequel. Enough of this bloated cliffhanger business. Kvothe's story is no Lord of the Rings or Song of Ice and Fire epic that necessitates 2,500+ pages.

...Says the person who's going to pick up the second book at the library today to see if The Thing finally gets described.

I'm really surprised it has a 4.55 rating on Goodreads. The reviewers I agreed with gave it two or three stars.

Date: May. 21st, 2016 06:04 pm (UTC)
nightdog_barks: Illuminated manuscript head and forequarters of a small blue dragon (Blue dragon)
From: [personal profile] nightdog_barks
Heh. This book is sitting in my To Read pile right now (along with Lev Grossman's The Magicians).

Date: May. 21st, 2016 08:25 pm (UTC)
marginaliana: Buddy the dog carries Bobo the toy (Default)
From: [personal profile] marginaliana
I found it smug and awful and unfinishable and was surprised that it got so many rave reviews, so it was interesting to see your thoughts. I think the mysterious enigmatic woman was what made me the most angry, because it's a strain of sexism that gets used by people who are like, "But I'm not being sexist! I'm only saying good things about women by referring to them as mysterious beautiful fey creatures who men are not meant to understand! I mean, who doesn't want to be enigmatic and beautiful??? Being understood is so unromantic!"

Date: May. 21st, 2016 11:05 pm (UTC)
longwhitecoats: Luke Skywalker from the original trilogy in his flight suit. Stars are falling on his head. (Wanda)
From: [personal profile] longwhitecoats
Oh my god, I haaaaaaaated that book. I quit around page 100, I think? I'm never going back. It's not as overtly disgusting as, say, Lev Grossman's The Magicians (which should get the award for most overrated piece of crap of all time), but it still has an eau de skeeve about it which made it impossible for me to get through. I am so tired of reading men's wish-fulfillment fantasies. I'm muchly gratified to hear that someone else felt similarly!

(I also know someone who was part of the process of working on that book, and she loves it, which meant I had to sit through hours of polite smile-and-nod while she raved about it, because she is a good person even if I will never understand her taste in books.)

Date: May. 22nd, 2016 08:56 am (UTC)
isagel: Lex and Clark of Smalllville, a black and white manip of them naked and embracing, with the text 'Isagel'. (Default)
From: [personal profile] isagel
Now you've made me never want to read that book, but also I'm really curious what a The Thing is.

Date: May. 23rd, 2016 12:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] isis
I liked it (and I liked the second book better, with one very glaring exception), but I also rolled my eyes very hard at the Gary Stu. The thing that caught my attention was the worldbuilding, not just the way magic works but the cultural structures of the different peoples.

What I said on Goodreads about the first book: "Every time I thought I'd put it aside, something really cool happened; and every time I thought that maybe it deserved all the five-star encomiums, something made me roll my eyes. I guess it averages out to three stars."

Date: May. 23rd, 2016 04:09 pm (UTC)
chagrined: Marvel comics: zombie!Spider-Man, holding playing cards, saying "Brains?" (brains?)
From: [personal profile] chagrined
The second book gets a lot worse at ...almost everything, hahaha. Especially all the ridic mary sue stuff. And enormously long sections where NOTHING HAPPENS. Despite finding Kvothe mary sue as fuck, I still enjoyed the first book enough to want to read the follow-up, but after that one I was done with the series. Without spoilers I'll just say that... you will see what I mean, lolol.

And it always annoys me when an author gives a mary sue character "flaws" but those "flaws" are all ttly unimportant in the actual grand scheme of things and never provide any real hindrance. Like, oh, Kvothe's not perfect, you see, there are some subjects in school he's bad at! And the whole money thing. Except being bad at those subjects never really matters and he's always able to come up with the money he needs so that doesn't really matter either. DUMBBBBBBBB.

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