Days 18-21

Feb. 4th, 2008 04:24 pm
bironic: Neil Perry gazing out a window at night (memoryfest - spelling)
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Sorry, I know I still need to get to a few comments from the last one.

Can you guess today's theme, kids?


18. Middle School

Seventh grade English, round one of the annual school spelling bee, where each class holds its own bee until only one student is left, who goes on to the grade-level bee and so forth. We got to "candelabra," and I was first or second, and spelled it "candleabra," I think, or possibly "candelabra." I suspect it was the first plus a lie later, because the teacher said it was wrong, and the next person had to spell it in turn. Except we ended up going through the whole class (or whoever hadn't been eliminated at that point), and nobody could spell it properly; people were baffled, and just kept repeating what had already been said or trying ever-more outrageous variations. When we'd exhausted the last person, the teacher spelled it out for us, and either I or someone else or a bunch of someone elses protested that we'd already spelled it like that and he'd said no. Or maybe one of the last people in line got it right and there were protests. Whatever, the outcome was that he threw out the word and started a new one. (I have no idea what it was.)


19. Middle School

In the eighth grade class bee, it was down to me and one other person. My word was "conceive." After some deliberation, I switched the "i" and the "e," and that was that. I kicked myself afterwards; I'm usually good with visualizing the word in my head. The teacher said in what he probably thought was a helpful voice that that was one of the words that did follow the "'i' before 'e' except after 'c'" rule.

Nowadays it makes me laugh twice as hard because it's a "con-" word, which, as I mentioned in one of those "six random things about me" memes, are most likely to trip me up if I'm trying to think of a word.


20. College

My pediatrician knew I was a reader and liked to give me vocabulary pop quizzes. Once, he asked if I knew what "cockle" meant. On this occasion, he said he had a word that he knew I wouldn't be able to spell. Try me, I said. He said a word that sounded like, "thonic."

Flashback to earlier that year: I'd had a classical mythology professor who was dedicated to the argument that all the ancient Western cultures were high on soma and hallucinogenic mushrooms, from Moses to the Greeks and Romans to remote mountain cultures of South America to Jesus. It was something to behold. Point is, he had his own set of favorite leftover-hippie vocabulary, and one of the words was "chthonic" -- earthly. It had been all over our textbooks (which he wrote / co-wrote).

So I said without hesitation, "c-h-t-h-o-n-i-c," and my doctor blinked at me, and I grinned.


21. Elementary School / Middle School

I could've sworn this was called Spell-It, but that's not turning anything up on Google. I'm sure five more minutes of searching would reveal the name, but: We had a computer game with this cartoon frog that would be running across the screen on a track -- well, the frog would look as if it were running in place, while the backdrop moved behind it -- making slapping noises with its feet on the ground, and hurdles would appear, and you had to type out words correctly indicate whether a given word was spelled correctly or incorrectly for it to leap the hurdle and keep running. It would make some kind of sound when you got one right. I think it would eat the word as it leapt? And you could adjust the speed or difficulty, or they would increase with time? I remember sitting in the spare room playing the game on many an afternoon.

Date: Feb. 4th, 2008 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musicisbelievng.livejournal.com
Ahhhhhh... what was that game called? I remembered it as soon as you said something about hurdles. It made a chomping sound, too, no? It wasn't part of Reader Rabbit or Playroom, was it?

Date: Feb. 4th, 2008 10:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
No, it was upstairs around our Bernoulli disk days.

Yeah, some kind of munching noise -- or did it flick its tongue out and eat the word?

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
I loved Reader Rabbit! So, so much. It was one of my favorite computer games - versions 2 and 3, I think. There was this one part with carrots in a vegetable garden which I could play for hours and hours.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com
Tangentially related (on the subject of awesome old computer programs):

My first exposure to the "internet" as such was at a friend's house: she had one of those ancient computers with an actual external modem that had an acoustic coupler ... I think it was 300 baud, and it was just utterly surreal. Anyway, it was running windows 3.1 and they had this great puzzle solving game set in a castle kind of myst-like? And I can't remember what it was called at all, I just played it once. (The computer, sadly, no longer exists - it was crazily held together with duct tape inside, apparently, and had been purchased from A Guy who knew A Guy who I think got it off the back of A Truck somewhere, you know.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynittria.livejournal.com
Was the game a text-only one? If so, it might have been Zork or Adventure. (If it featured grues lurking in the dark who would love to eat you, it was Zork; I can't remember anything about Adventure other than its existence.) The Zork games were fantastic; I wish I had a computer that could still play them.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com
No, it was definitely graphical.
Related (for you!): Zork Online. (http://thcnet.net/zork/index.php)

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynittria.livejournal.com
ZOMG! It's the original Zork! Thank you, thank you, thank you for the link!

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Have you read this (http://community.livejournal.com/sga_flashfic/601496.html)?

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynittria.livejournal.com
LOL! That was brilliant!

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com
I loved Adventure! That's the one where one of the first things you get to is the Hall of the Mountain King, and I think one of the first things you pick up is a birdcage. I spent hours and hours playing it as a kid, but never completed it - I used to have metaphorical nightmares about the 'maze of twisty little passages, all alike' which were so unfair because you couldn't retrace your steps. Someday, I'd still like to get through the whole thing. It's on the net somewhere XD

Date: Feb. 6th, 2008 06:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
'maze of twisty little passages, all alike'

I'd never have picked up on this, except you just mentioned it and then I went to link Elynittria to an SGA fic about Zork (see above), and I saw that that very line appears in the story. *g*

Date: Feb. 9th, 2008 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com
Hee, that was so cute! But I'm now confused as to whether that line was in Zork as well (I've never played Zork) or whether it's just something both games used. Hmmm.

Date: Feb. 9th, 2008 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Or maybe the author used stuff from different games and not just Zork?

Glad you liked. :D

Date: Feb. 10th, 2008 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com
Very possibly; I was just thrown by the Zork link at the end and not recognising any of the other parts. But I loved the stuff like 'cannot use C4 here', LOL.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
The Zork games were fantastic; I wish I had a computer that could still play them.

I feel the same way about the After Dark screensaver-game Lunatic Fringe. Nobody has it anywhere, and the Mac that had it loaded on the hard drive is gone or erased.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
I don't supposed you're talking about ont of the Learning Company Games? There was one where the character(s?) were in a mansion, and had to solve math puzzles, mostly, and I think the music playing the the background was creepy Mozart or Bach. This one sounds close to what I remember, although I'm not sure about the cast of characters. In any case I loved their games; Gizmos & Gadgets was where I learned all about pulley and levers and wedges. Ah, educational computer games, where have you gone?

Date: Feb. 9th, 2008 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com
Huh! Yes, that sounds similar - I'd have to see screenshots, but yes, that sounds very much like it. :-)

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynittria.livejournal.com
I hated spelling bees. I'm a great speller if I'm able to physically write words out, but I suck at spelling them out loud. My teachers weren't able to comprehend this simple fact and were always pushing me to compete in bees. Luckily, I was able to resist, a lá Bartleby.

I just had to use this icon!

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
:)

Bartleby, hee. Did they have to move the bee to another location because you politely insisted on staying just where you were and not participating?

Spelling is much easier on paper than in your head. Why can't they let spelling bees be written instead of oral?

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com
As I think I've mentioned before, spelling bees are so not part of Australian culture. I think NSW has one now, but it's only about 10 years old, and just for one state. Random memory: we used to own the famous Speak'n'Spell - which always pissed me off immensely because it insisted on spelling 'neighbour' incorrectly. I understood why, but I was still extremely unimpressed :D

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 03:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Darn American culture impinging on the rest of the world.

Date: Feb. 6th, 2008 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com
Hee, well I understand there was a British version - we just didn't have that one. I have the feeling it was a gift or hand-me-down brought back from the US. The other US spellings didn't bother me nearly as much - it was more the fact that the panel could only support eight letters, so you couldn't spell it 'correctly' EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO. It's the principle of the thing. You see XD

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
18. Some people can't be wrong...

In fifth grade I was working on a project with my friend K. For some reason, the project called for the use of a clip art picture of a traffic light. When I printed it out, K expressed annoyance that the picture was "wrong." I asked what she meant and she said the picture wasn't right because the red light was on the top and the green light was on the bottom. I thought that was how it was supposed to be but it's my nature to doubt myself so we brought the picture to Daddy and asked him. He confirmed what I thought but there was no convincing K.

One day when we were in eighth grade we were driving somewhere with my parents. Daddy, remembering the debate about traffic lights years earlier, pointed out an actual traffic light to K. Indeed, the red light was on the top and the green light was on the bottom. She insisted we called the government and had the lights in the area changed.



19. Spelling bees

The only spelling bee I've ever been in was one in my second grade class. The prize was a stuffed T Rex, a package of pencils with dinosaurs on them and a package of dinosaur stickers. I looooooved dinosaurs and I collected all three of those things, so I wanted that prize so much I could practically taste it. And I rocked at spelling so I was really excited and confident that I could win. The "word bank" was the entire dinosaur unit we'd just finished in our science book. I recall spelling everything from "cousin" and "because" to "Brachiosaurus" and "Pterodactyl" correctly. The word that made me lose? SALAD. I have no fucking idea how I tried to spell it... Or how the teacher thought I tried to spell it because I recall thinking I shouldn't have been out yet.



20. Surprise! I r smrt!

It's fairly well-documented in my journal that when I was little Daddy and I used to play all kinds of games that dealt with puzzles and riddles, spelling, memory tricks, observation skills, etc. Anything that might make me even smarter! One day when I was probably about seven or eight, we were sitting in the car waiting for my mother to finish in ... some store. (She was doing some knd of arts/crafts shopping, which Daddy and I don't particularly enjoy doing with her.) To kill time, he was quizzing me on spelling. Since we were sitting in a parking lot, most of the words he was giving me were car makes and models. "These are too easy!" I complained. "Give me a hard one!" So he gave me "Hyundai." Which I promptly spelled correctly without much thought at all. He was surprised because I was about fourteen before I started paying attention to cars. How did I know how to spell that?! It was from seeing it on TV commercials. Nobody can ever say TV never taught me anything.



21. Educational video games

Oregon Trail (http://www.virtualapple.org/oregontraildisk.html). That is all.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 02:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
18. Hee.

Once, in college, L. and I had a discussion over the phone about a My Little Pony episode we remembered where the ponies stepped on something and their wishes came true, and there was a drought, etc. I said they were magic coins; he insisted that they were horse shoes. So of course I had to go and look it up, and it turned out the title of the episode was "The Magic Coins."

19. Nooo! Nobody should be cheated of dinosaur toys. And what the heck was "salad" doing in a unit about dinosaurs? Were you being taught that the herbivores ate it?

I had a t-rex pen I used to adore that I think we got from Dinosaur State Park in Connecticut. It was yellow, with a twisty tip to make the pen part come out or retract, and at the top was one of those clear windows with a landscape backdrop and a thin cutout of a t-rex that would float to the top or the bottom depending on how you held the pen. I'd make it go up and then down and then up for minutes at a time.

21. Sometimes I would say The hell with the mission! and spend all my money on bullets and just go shoot buffalo and rabbits.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
You know, as I was typing this, I thought of that. "Why the hell was 'salad' in my dinosaur unit?" It must have been making a comparison. Because otherwise ... wtf?

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
I always think there's a catch, with "'i' before 'e' except after 'c'". I mutter it to myself, try both ie and ei, and then choose the wrong option. It's all weird's falt. Why does weird have to be weird?

We had no spelling bees at out school, not that I can remember. (In Israel, the concept doesn't even exist.) We did have spelling tests, though, and there's one I can remember from first grade: the last word on the ten word list was 'enough'. It was only my second or third week at school, so I don't think anyone had been expecting me to be good at it - I hadn't even studied (I don't know if we were supposed to.) But I'd gone to a few private English lessons before coming to the States, and my parents read books in English with me every night, and they must have taught me that sometimes f is spelled ph. So I decided to write that in the test, and I might not have gotten the ou, but I was the only one who got ph right. I was very proud of myself.

And OH MY GOD I JUST LOOKED IT UP AND THIS IS HOW I LEARNED ENGLISH. LOOK. LOOK.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Wow, that's ... wow. :D

Did you have that word game / puzzle where people say, how do you pronounce "ghoti," and the answer is "fish"? ("gh" in words like "enough," "o" like in "women," "ti" like in "quotient")

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
I did not! But that's a perfect example for why English is so much harder to learn to read than Hebrew. Who the hell invented the silent letter, I ask you?

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
I'm now finding it ironic that I first heard that puzzle in Hebrew school.

I guess Hebrew is more of a WYSIWYG language, except you take away all the vowels, what the hell? :D

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
Pah, who needs vowels? As if yu cnt undrstnd wt iym ryting hir rgrdls :-)

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 04:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Bt t dfntl mks t hrdr t lrn lngg whn hlf th lttrs r mssng. Dnt y thnk?

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
Wl, its not lyke we dont hv vwls at al! In modrn Hibru we yuz thm ocaysonly, lyk I am hir (excepy I'd say Ay, not I.)

Ahem, ANYWAY, you have a point, although in the end it all amounts to how long it takes you to get used to something new - both systems have their flaws. But I will put it this way: once you learn the basics, Hebrew is easier to learn how to pronounce. Only six sounds, and no long vowels, no letters making as sounds they're not. There are so many nuances in English pronunciation that you don't even notice unless you think about them: s is sss in snake and zzz in is and j in decision, and then there's sh and ts... in Hebrew, s is s!

(well, except for four problematic letters. But four! That's not too much.)

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
Oh, man. When I was in sixth grade, we had some lady come into our class to talk to us about ... something. I don't even know what. I really don't think it was about linguistics in any way, so I have no idea wtf she was doing giving us this puzzle, but she did. She wrote it on the board and asked us how to pronounce it and I just looked at it for about thirty seconds and said, "Fish." Some part of my brain insists that I'd heard it before, but I have no memory of it. But I really really must have. I'm no idiot, but I'm not that smart.

Date: Feb. 5th, 2008 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewlisian-afer.livejournal.com
Why does weird have to be weird?

I always pity poor Einstein. His name fucks it up twice. ;)

Date: Feb. 6th, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pynelyf.livejournal.com
I have to admit I have been lurking this memoryfest, and after reading all your posts so far, finally felt impelled to participate. You can peruse it here if you wish: http://pynelyf.livejournal.com/45913.html

Re: chthonic. I have heard of this (in)famous BU professor and half-regret I never did take his mushroom class. Also, I did not know that chthonic was a word even though I knew autochthonic was.

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